We interviewed an IQS expert, Piotr Bordzoł, who is in charge of providing support in the area of describing market qualifications as part of the project to implement the Integrated Qualifications System in Poland. Our interviewee will tell us what exactly his work involves, how the working meetings with stakeholders interested in describing market qualifications are conducted, what is the essence of a good market qualification description and why the description is so important not only at the stage of inclusion of a qualification in the system, but also later, during validation. We will learn what the role and importance of these qualifications is in building systems that enable learning and verification of "skills", the systems that are one of the fundamental conditions for the development of modern society. We also learn why it is a case of a shoemaker with the worst shoes…